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WT Elders school: The WTS has progressed from just plain stupid to dangerously stupid

by sir82 in

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fresh off the recent 1-day elders school.

to keep things readable i'll post "highlights" over the next several days in different topics.

point 1: they have progressed from "just plain" stupid to dangerously stupid.. .

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Ethos…

Let’s go to the Super Secret Elder’s Manual shall we?

In page 59 (under offenses requiring judicial decisions) it states the following:

Attempted suicide may be the result of deep despair or major depression. Deal carefully and compassionately with such a person. In most cases a judicial hearing is not required.

Seriously??? In other words, a JW in deep despair can possibly get himself DF’d for attempting suicide? That’s all they have to say about suicide?

Actually, there is one more thing about suicide in this manual… page 86 where it lays out a procedure to follow if, during a judicial committee hearing, someone threatens to kill himself. It basically instructs elders to patronize the accused JW (stall him) and then come back a couple of days later with some bullshit WT articles to get him back on track.

these guys are totally clueless

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WT Elders school: The WTS has progressed from just plain stupid to dangerously stupid

by sir82 in

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friends

fresh off the recent 1-day elders school.

to keep things readable i'll post "highlights" over the next several days in different topics.

point 1: they have progressed from "just plain" stupid to dangerously stupid.. .

Calebs Airplane

Thanks for sharing... looking forward to other parts...

Was there also a 3-part symposium on how to judge others? I think I saw that on a previous thread that mentioned this meeting's agenda but I'm not sure...

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Are you sure you have not spoken to someone about Jehovah or the Bible for at least 15 minutes?

by Calebs Airplane in

how many here have had this conversation before (especially just before the week-long visit by the circuit overseer)?:.

brother irregular, i don't believe we've received your report for last month.

did you turn it in yet?.

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How many here have had this conversation before (especially just before the week-long visit by the Circuit Overseer)?:

Brother Irregular, I don't believe we've received your report for last month. Did you turn it in yet?

Uh.... No.

Are you going to?

No.

Why not?

I didn't go out to Field Service last month.

OK. But are you sure you didn't talk to a friend, neighbor or family member about Jehovah or the Bible for at least 15 minutes?

Well, I think I spoke to my neighbor for about 10 minutes early last month. Does that count?

I think so. But just turn in your report and we'll decide that later.

OK.

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In respect to headcovering, can you get away with a sheet of toilet paper??

by Gill in

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whose idea was it anywhere and is there any mention of it in any awake or bodgetower?.

the idea, that women when taking the lead in anyway or praying should have something on their head as a sign of respect suddenly struck me as a sign of total disrespect!.

i understand a woman may put anything on her head as a sign of respect to her superior male colleagues, including a used kleenex....i've seen it so don't doubt it!!.

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You can certainly get away with a sheet of toilet paper but you will have to answer to Jehovah if a breeze knocks it off your head.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-18-2012 WT Study (KNOW DAY HOUR)

by blondie in

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day or the hour of the end?.

knowing the exact day or hour when the.

5. how may not knowing the day or the hour.

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Not knowing when Jehovah will kill 7 Billion people has been a blessing.

Indeed, it is certainly a blessing NOT knowing that the end is very near.... wait, was that an oxymoron?

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Are They Cynically Shutting Down The Organization?

by metatron in

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i've raised this idea before but recent events seem to support it.

changes in the watchtower may be guided by more than a need for cash flow: they may simply be liquidating/shutting it down as discreetly as possible.. of course, this doesn't mean they stop working on their upstate ny country club - but it could mean that the throrough going exposure and disproof of their beliefs on the internet, when it emerged, took many of them by surprize, as it did many of us!

after awhile, they generally gave up trying to make any sense of their doctrines - and coupled with cash flow issues - moved towards a quiet retreat.. take a look at a few things:.

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Metatron... very good points you make about the LDS hiearchal structure. Looks they're pretty solid so far... Also, Mormons have learned the value of diversification.. For example, a few years ago, they started peddling home security systems door-to-door (APX Alarms)... Maybe we'll soon see JWs selling surplus furniture door to door (from all the bethel branches that are closing down).

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Lease cars for circuit overseers (worldwide arrangement)

by Gorbatchov in

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yesterday evening a letter of the dutch (netherlands) branch of the watchtower society was read to the congregation.

it stated that the governing body has made a new arrangement for circuit overseers worldwide: the society provides a lease car.

it was backed with some bible texts (...) and the conclusion was that it was financial cheaper for the congregations.

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In the US, it appears Circuit Overseers get brand new Buick LaCrosses... every 3 years.

I'm curious to know what Circuit Overseers drive in other parts of the world... (Maybe I'll start a separate thread about this and see where it goes...)

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As of September 2012,20 branch offices are CLOSING DOWN

by raymond frantz in

fresh out of the jw.org website http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/world/jehovahs-witnesses-office-consolidation/ .

the society as from september 2012 is closing 20 branches worldwide .the best bit is the last paragraph :.

workers are available to spend more time preachingbecause of the mergers, qualified ministers who had been serving in small branches can now concentrate on preaching the good news.. a witness in africa, who was reassigned to the preaching activity, wrote: "adjusting my lifestyle to suit the new circumstances was a challenge during the first few months.

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Those 95 Central American Bethelites who were kicked out of their branches and forced to do full-time field circus under the hot Central American sun must be pissed... As working bethelites, they at least had a sense of dignity and status... Now, they know it will just be a matter of time before that elite status starts to wear off and other JWs start viewing them as needy and burdensome...

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Watchtower Real Estate Fire Sale = Comfort for the Jews?

by Calebs Airplane in

has anyone noticed that all the watchtower buildings in brooklyn are (so far) being sold to real estate investment companies owned and operated by orthodox jews?

seriously, i couldnt identify one single watchtower building in brooklyn that went to a non-jewish real estate firm.. is the rothschild family finally cashing in on the initial investment they made in the watchtower at the end of the 19th century?

i have to wonder if they foresee a collapse or mass exodus in the near future and want to cash in their chips before these lose any more value..

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Stapler99 said: It's probably just reflective of the amount of real estate companies owned or run by Jews in New York.

True. But there are also many other large ethnic groups buying up chunks of commercial real estate in the NYC area, most notably and recently, the Chinese... So why is the Watchtower hell bent on only selling to the Jews? And why sell at the worst possible time for real estate?

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My mom's selling her house. New Light?

by DubR in

hello all u evil apostates!

jehovah's gonna kill the whole lot of ya lol j/k.

when ya find out the jws and the bible is a bunch of baloney there isnt much more to learn about.

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There could be something more recent, but the latest fear-mongering that I know of was the Special Talk following the Memorial this year. I believe the title was "Is it later than you think?" ... It appears Armageddon is just around the corner (again)... But this talk was really just a sales pitch to get all the "Inactives" back into the fold as soon as possible before Jehovah closes this short window of opportunity... Same sh*t regurgitated every 3 or 4 years for the past 130 years...